John Holker, 17451822 (aged 77 years)

Name
John /Holker/
Given names
John
Surname
Holker
Type of name
birth name
Birth
Source: Wikipedia
Citation details: John Holker, Jr.
Immigration
about 1752 (aged 7 years)
Note: cf. naturalisation
Death of a paternal grandmother
after 1760 (aged 15 years)
Marriage
Naturalization
January 29, 1766 (aged 21 years)
Source: FamilySearch
Text:

Spouse: Margurite Elizabeth Julie Quesnel
Marriage: 25 MAY 1769 Rouen, , , France
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter.

Note: En même temps que son père et sa mère. Il est indiqué qu'il avait vécu 14 ans en France, ce qui signifie qu'il est arrivé en France à l'âge de 7 ans.
Marriage
April 26, 1769 (aged 24 years)
Rouen, Seine-Maritime, Normandie, France
Latitude: 49.4414760352 Longitude: 1.09318612833
Citation details: Page 12
Text:

Jean Holker, fils unique et héritier, maintenant à Rouen, écuyer, né à Manchester en 1745, épousa le 25 avril 1769 Elisabeth-Julie Quesnel, fille de Nicolas Quesnel, ancien Prieur et Juge consul négociant à Rouen.

Source: FamilySearch
Text:

Marriages:
Spouse: Margurite Elizabeth Julie Quesnel
Marriage: 25 MAY 1769 Rouen, , , France

Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter.

Text:

Le vingtième jour du mois d'avril mil sept cent soixante neuf après la publication d'un banc de mariage entre Mr Jean Holker de la paroisse Saint Sever fils mineur de Mr Jean Holker écuyer inspecteur général des manufactures et de dame Elisabeth Hilton ses père et mère d'une part et damoiselle Marguerite Elisabeth Julie Quesnel de cette paroisse fille mineure de Nicolas Louis Quesnel négociant ancien prieur de la juridiction consulaire et de dame Marie Elisabeth Baraguey ses père et mère d'autre part [...]
en présence de M Jean Holker père de l'époux messire Thiroux de Crosne chevalier conseiller du Roy en ses conseils maitre des requêtes [xxx] de la généralité de Rouen amy de l'épouse, Mr Nicolas Louis Quesnel père de l'épouse, Mrs Louis Quesnel et Prosper Quesnel frères de l'épouse [...]

Citation details: 4 E 2064 Rouen - 01/01/1764-31/12/1778 - Rouen (paroisse Saint-Jean) - Registres Paroissiaux - Baptêmes, Mariages, Sépultures (78/212)
Birth of a son
April 12, 1770 (aged 25 years)
Rouen, Seine-Maritime, Normandie, France
Latitude: 49.4414760352 Longitude: 1.09318612833
Address: rue St Julien, paroisse Saint-Sever
Baptism of a son
April 12, 1770 (aged 25 years)
Saint-Sever, Rouen, Seine-Maritime, Normandie, France
Latitude: 49.4414760352 Longitude: 1.09318612833
Godfather: John Holker (aged 50 years) — paternal-grandfather
Text:

Paroisse Saint-Sever
Baptême de jean louis holker

Le Lundy douzième jour d'avril mil sept cens soixante et dix jean louis fils de Monsieur jean holker escuyer inspecteur general des manufactures du Royaume et de Madame elizabeth julia Quesnel son epouse demaeurant Rue St julien a été Baptisé en cette eglise par Monsieur Valentin Curé de cette paroisse le parain Monsieur jean holker escuyer, ancien Capitaine du Regiment d'Ogelvi inspecteur genéral des manufactures du Royaume, la maraine Madame Marie elizabeth Baraguey femme de Monsieur Louis Quesnel négociant à Rouen paroisse de St jean qui ont signé

Signatures de J Holker, Baraguey Quesnel, Valentin

Notes :
Les parain et maraine sont respectivement le grand-père paternel et la grand-mère maternelle.
Le père n'a pas signé, la signature correspond à celle du grand-père.

Citation details: 4 E 2185 Rouen - 01/01/1770-31/12/1771 - Rouen (paroisse Saint-Sever) - Registres Paroissiaux - Baptêmes, Mariages, Sépultures (5/82)
Burial
Death of a mother
January 20, 1776 (aged 31 years)
Rouen, Seine-Maritime, Normandie, France
Latitude: 49.4414760352 Longitude: 1.09318612833
Burial of a mother
January 21, 1776 (aged 31 years)
Rouen, Seine-Maritime, Normandie, France
Latitude: 49.4414760352 Longitude: 1.09318612833
Attending: P GuillibaudRelationship
Attending: Antoine Garvey (aged 36 years) — Relationship
Text:

Paroisse Saint-Sever à Rouen
Injumation Elizabeth Hilton

Inhumation de noble Dame elisabeth hilton, épouse de monsieur holker
Ce vingt-un de janvier mil sept cens Soixante Seize le corps de noble Dame elisabeth hilton, épouse de messire jean holker ecuier, chevalier de l'ordre royal et militaire de St louis, ancien Capitaine & inspecteur général des manufactures étrangères du royaume agée d'environ Cinquante ans, décédée d'hier, a été transporté [illisible] valentin, Curé de cette paroisse dans le monastère des dames gravelines où elle avait choisie sa sepulture, en présence de monsieur garvay, de messieurs guilbeaut, malleze sous signés

Signatures de Valentin
Mailleze
Guillibaud

Notes :
Religieuses Anglaises dites "Gravelines" (Ordre de Ste-Claire)
Couvent des Gravelines situé 24 rue de Joyeuse à Rouen

Marriage of a parent
November 6, 1776 (aged 31 years)
Rouen, Seine-Maritime, Normandie, France
Latitude: 49.4414760352 Longitude: 1.09318612833
Address: Rouen St Vincent
Citation details: G 5117 Archevêché de Rouen (Liasse.) – 133 pièces, papier.
Text:

G. 5117. (Liasse.) – 133 pièces, papier.
1696-1790. – Pièces annexes des actes de mariage, classées par ordre alphabétique de noms d’homme.
[...]
– entre Jean Holker, écuyer, ancien capitaine au régiment d’Ogilvy, chevalier de Saint-Louis, inspecteur général des manufactures, fils de Jean Holker, écuyer, et d’Alles Morris, veuf d’Élisabeth Hulton, d’une part, et Marie-Marguerite-Thérèse Ribard, fille de feu Jean-Nicolas Ribard, négociant, et d’Élisabeth-Thérèse Sandelion, veuve de Pierre -Jacques Testart, écuyer, sieur de Bellemare, Sacquenville, etc., d’autre part, novembre 1776 ;

Citation details: 4 E 2195 Rouen - 01/01/1775-31/12/1778 - Rouen (paroisse Saint-Vincent) - Registres Paroissiaux - Baptêmes, Mariages, Sépultures (25/53)
Text:

Le six de Novembre 1776 messires jean Holker ecuyer, ancien capitaine au regiment d'Olgivy, Chevalier de l'ordre royal et militaire de st Loüis veuf de noble dame Elizabeth Hulton fils de feu Sr jean Holker ecuyer et de feue noble dame Alles Morris ses pere et mere d'une part et noble dame Marie Marguerite Thérèse Ribard de cette paroisse veuve de M. jean pierre jacques Testart ecuyer seigneur et patron honoraire de Brettemare, sacqueville, Villez sur Damville, ancien prieur juge consul en cette ville, fille de feu M. jean Nicolas Ribard negociant à Roüen et de feue dame Elizabeth Therese Sandelion ses pere et mere d'autre part

Marriage
Source: FamilySearch
Text:

John Holker
Marriages:
Spouse: Hannah Hay Cooper
Marriage:
About 1780 Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter.

Note: Bien que non référencée la source est probablement fiable. Les informations sur le premier mariage sont exactes. Il s'agit probablement de descendants américains.
Birth of a daughter
Birth of a daughter
Death of a father
April 24, 1786 (aged 41 years)
Montigny, Seine-Maritime, Normandie, France
Latitude: 49.425520648 Longitude: 1.00384964963
Text:

1773 28th. April Friday
John Holker, Chevalier of the Order of St. Louis, and inspector-general of the woollen and cotton manufactures of France, died at Rouen, 28th April. He was born at Stretford, and baptised there 14th October, 1719. His parents were married at Manchester in 1715, and the name is found frequently at Monton. He was a “calendarer,” joined the rebels in 1745, and was taken prisoner at Carlisle. When in Newgate awaiting trial a fellow-prisoner found a means of escape from the same cell, but Holker was too bulky to pass through the “straightgate.” The generous comrade returned, and the two in company enlarged the hole and both escaped. Holker was concealed for six weeks by a woman who kept a green stall, but eventually escaped to France, where he entered the army, and retired on a pension of 600 francs in 1755. He had previously, in connection with partners, erected a velvet factory at Rouen, and in 1758 he retired with a fortune. He was inspector-general of foreign manufactures from 1755 until his death. In 1766 he established chemical works and introduced leaden chambers for the manufacture of sulphuric acid. He is said to have visited England secretly to induce English artisans to settle in France. He was nominated a Chevalier de St. Louis, 27th September, 1770. This remarkable life is given with the fullest detail in communications by Mr. J. G. Alger in the Palatine Note-book, vol. iv.,pp. 47, 111.(7)

Death of a daughter
Citation details: p. 25
Residence
Brumaire 17, An XI (November 8, 1802) (aged 57 years)
Paris 9e, Paris, Île-de-France, France
Latitude: 48.8769274899 Longitude: 2.33736632955
Address: Rue du Mont-Blanc
(aujourd'hui rue de la Chaussée d'Antin)
Note: cf. mariage de son fils Jean Jacques Louis
Marriage of a son
Witness: François-Prosper Quesnel (aged 52 years) — uncle husband’s uncle
Witness: François Cabeuil (aged 25 years) — brother-in-law elder brother
Citation details: Tableau IX
Citation details: 3 E 999 Rouen - 23/09/1802-21/12/1802 - Rouen - Registres Etat Civil - Mariages - Concerne aussi des divorces (67/149)
Text:

[...] acte de mariage de Jean Louis Holker, fabricant en sa manufacture d'huile de vitriol rue de Sotteville n° 40, faubourg St Sever, agé de trente-deux ans, né en cette ville paroisse St Sever le douze avril mil-sept-cent-soixante-dix, fils majeur de Jean Holker, et de Elisabeth Julie Quesnel, vivant de leur revenu à Paris rue du Mont-Blanc; & de Adélaïde Cabeüil, domiciliée chez le citoyen Édouard Moris, rue d'Elbeuf n° 85, agée de vingt un ans, née en cette ville paroisse St Patrick le vingt-cinq décembre mil-sept-cent-quatre-vingt, fille majeure de François Cabeüil, et de Julie Adélaïde Dubocage de Bléville décédés ; les actes préliminaires sont extraits du registre de publication des mariages faites en cette ville le dimanche neuf de ce mois et affichées aux termes de la loy sans opposition le tout en forme [...] en présence de François Prosper Quesnel, oncle de l'époux agé de cinquante-deux ans, négotiant rue aux [xxx] n° 84 de Edouard Quesnel son cousin, agé de vingt un ans meme maison, de Edouard Morris beau-frère cylindreur agé de trente ans domicilié rue d'Elbeuf n° 85, et de François Cabeüil, agé de vingt cinq ans ayant même domicile frère de l'épouse [...]

Property
Vente ou location manufacture
Pluviose 19, An XI (February 8, 1803) (aged 58 years)
Rouen, Seine-Maritime, Normandie, France
Latitude: 49.4414760352 Longitude: 1.09318612833
Address: Entre rue d'Elbeuf et Saint-Julien
Citation details: 8 FEB 1803
Note: Il n'est pas certain que la manufacture lui appartenait amis le fait qu'il s'agisse d'une manufacture de vitriol et qu'il faille voir son fils pour la visite plaide en ce sens.
Death of a wife
Marriage
Source: Internet
Text:

After Margaret’s sister Nancy (1777–1857) married her second husband, John Holker (d. 1820), in January 1815, they both sat for Stuart for companion portraits

Citation details: p. 40
Birth of a daughter
Death of a wife
August 3, 1820 (aged 75 years) Age: 74
Versailles, Yvelines, Île-de-France, France
Latitude: 48.8023412582 Longitude: 2.11714488156
Informant: Jean Jacques Louis Holker (aged 50 years) — son
Citation details: 4E 4102 - 5MI 244 BIS [1112521/3] - Versailles - Décès - Collection du greffe - 1820 - 1820 (109/171)
Text:

[...] épouse de sieur Jean Baptiste Holker, planteur en Virginie Etats Unis d'Amérique

Death
Citation details: Page 12
Citation details: P. 28
Text:

HON. JOHN HOLKER. "Of Scotch descent, was born in England in the year 1743. His father Jean Holker of France joined the army of the Pretender, fought at the battle of Culloden, 1746, was taken prisoner and condemned to be executed, but made his escape to France. His wife and child, John, then about two years old, followed him.
John Holker was sent to this country during the Revolutionary War about the year 1778 by the Government of Louis XVI, or rather by Beaumarchais, to inquire into the probability of the success of our armies against England.
On his favorable report the treaty was made between Louis and the United States. Mr. Holker was then made Consul General of France and agent of the Royal Marine. Mr. Holker brought letters to this country from Benjamin Franklin to Robert Morris and other members of Congress speaking in the highest terms of his segacity. " He married as his third wife Nancy Davis Stillman (nee Stackpole) of Boston, Mass. Mr. and Mrs. Holker then removed to Virginia and lived at "Springsberry," Clarke County, where he died in June, 1820. Being a Roman Catholic he was buried in holy ground in Winchester, but was reinterred at the Old Chapel in the Autumn of 1904.

Family with parents
father
17191786
Birth: October 14, 1719 28 Stretford, Lancashire, England
Death: April 24, 1786Montigny, Seine-Maritime, Normandie, France
mother
17261776
Birth: calculated 1726 Manchester, Lancashire, England
Death: January 20, 1776Rouen, Seine-Maritime, Normandie, France
Marriage MarriageDecember 7, 1743
2 years
himself
17451822
Birth: 1745 25 19 Manchester, Lancashire, England
Death: April 13, 1822Springsberry, Clarke County, Virginia, USA
Father’s family with Marie Marguerite Thérèse Ribard
father
17191786
Birth: October 14, 1719 28 Stretford, Lancashire, England
Death: April 24, 1786Montigny, Seine-Maritime, Normandie, France
stepmother
17281791
Birth: October 6, 1728 34 30 Rouen, Seine-Maritime, Normandie, France
Death: about May 15, 1791
Marriage MarriageNovember 6, 1776Rouen, Seine-Maritime, Normandie, France
Family with Marguerite Elisabeth Julie Quesnel
himself
17451822
Birth: 1745 25 19 Manchester, Lancashire, England
Death: April 13, 1822Springsberry, Clarke County, Virginia, USA
wife
17481820
Birth: March 9, 1748 34 23
Death: August 3, 1820Versailles, Yvelines, Île-de-France, France
Marriage MarriageApril 26, 1769Rouen, Seine-Maritime, Normandie, France
1 year
son
17701844
Birth: April 12, 1770 25 22 Rouen, Seine-Maritime, Normandie, France
Death: August 18, 1844Paris, Île-de-France, France
Family with Hannah Hay Cooper
himself
17451822
Birth: 1745 25 19 Manchester, Lancashire, England
Death: April 13, 1822Springsberry, Clarke County, Virginia, USA
wife
17551812
Birth: about 1755Pennsylvania
Death: June 28, 1812Pennsylvania
Marriage Marriageabout 1780Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
17 months
daughter
17811857
Birth: May 29, 1781 36 26 Shenandoah, Virginia
Death: October 29, 1857
3 years
daughter
17841794
Birth: April 1, 1784 39 29 Pennsylvania
Death: June 3, 1794Virginia
Family with Nancy Davis Stackpole
himself
17451822
Birth: 1745 25 19 Manchester, Lancashire, England
Death: April 13, 1822Springsberry, Clarke County, Virginia, USA
wife
17771857
Birth: May 1777
Death: June 28, 1857
Marriage MarriageJanuary 18, 1815Boston, Massachusetts, USA
2 years
daughter
Birth
Source: Wikipedia
Citation details: John Holker, Jr.
Naturalization
Source: FamilySearch
Text:

Spouse: Margurite Elizabeth Julie Quesnel
Marriage: 25 MAY 1769 Rouen, , , France
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter.

Marriage
Citation details: Page 12
Text:

Jean Holker, fils unique et héritier, maintenant à Rouen, écuyer, né à Manchester en 1745, épousa le 25 avril 1769 Elisabeth-Julie Quesnel, fille de Nicolas Quesnel, ancien Prieur et Juge consul négociant à Rouen.

Source: FamilySearch
Text:

Marriages:
Spouse: Margurite Elizabeth Julie Quesnel
Marriage: 25 MAY 1769 Rouen, , , France

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Text:

Le vingtième jour du mois d'avril mil sept cent soixante neuf après la publication d'un banc de mariage entre Mr Jean Holker de la paroisse Saint Sever fils mineur de Mr Jean Holker écuyer inspecteur général des manufactures et de dame Elisabeth Hilton ses père et mère d'une part et damoiselle Marguerite Elisabeth Julie Quesnel de cette paroisse fille mineure de Nicolas Louis Quesnel négociant ancien prieur de la juridiction consulaire et de dame Marie Elisabeth Baraguey ses père et mère d'autre part [...]
en présence de M Jean Holker père de l'époux messire Thiroux de Crosne chevalier conseiller du Roy en ses conseils maitre des requêtes [xxx] de la généralité de Rouen amy de l'épouse, Mr Nicolas Louis Quesnel père de l'épouse, Mrs Louis Quesnel et Prosper Quesnel frères de l'épouse [...]

Citation details: 4 E 2064 Rouen - 01/01/1764-31/12/1778 - Rouen (paroisse Saint-Jean) - Registres Paroissiaux - Baptêmes, Mariages, Sépultures (78/212)
Marriage
Source: FamilySearch
Text:

John Holker
Marriages:
Spouse: Hannah Hay Cooper
Marriage:
About 1780 Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter.

Property
Citation details: 8 FEB 1803
Marriage
Source: Internet
Text:

After Margaret’s sister Nancy (1777–1857) married her second husband, John Holker (d. 1820), in January 1815, they both sat for Stuart for companion portraits

Citation details: p. 40
Death
Citation details: Page 12
Citation details: P. 28
Text:

HON. JOHN HOLKER. "Of Scotch descent, was born in England in the year 1743. His father Jean Holker of France joined the army of the Pretender, fought at the battle of Culloden, 1746, was taken prisoner and condemned to be executed, but made his escape to France. His wife and child, John, then about two years old, followed him.
John Holker was sent to this country during the Revolutionary War about the year 1778 by the Government of Louis XVI, or rather by Beaumarchais, to inquire into the probability of the success of our armies against England.
On his favorable report the treaty was made between Louis and the United States. Mr. Holker was then made Consul General of France and agent of the Royal Marine. Mr. Holker brought letters to this country from Benjamin Franklin to Robert Morris and other members of Congress speaking in the highest terms of his segacity. " He married as his third wife Nancy Davis Stillman (nee Stackpole) of Boston, Mass. Mr. and Mrs. Holker then removed to Virginia and lived at "Springsberry," Clarke County, where he died in June, 1820. Being a Roman Catholic he was buried in holy ground in Winchester, but was reinterred at the Old Chapel in the Autumn of 1904.

Immigration

cf. naturalisation

Naturalization

En même temps que son père et sa mère. Il est indiqué qu'il avait vécu 14 ans en France, ce qui signifie qu'il est arrivé en France à l'âge de 7 ans.

Marriage

Bien que non référencée la source est probablement fiable. Les informations sur le premier mariage sont exactes. Il s'agit probablement de descendants américains.

Residence

cf. mariage de son fils Jean Jacques Louis

Property

Il n'est pas certain que la manufacture lui appartenait amis le fait qu'il s'agisse d'une manufacture de vitriol et qu'il faille voir son fils pour la visite plaide en ce sens.

Note

Source internet (Payenville)
IL DOPA DE NOUVEAUX PERFECTIONNEMENTS L'INDUSTRIE FRANCAISE DE LA FILATURE ET DE L'HUILE DE VITRIOL PUIS FUT CHARGE DE MISSION EN AMERIQUE DE 1777 A 1783
DEVINT CONSUL DE FRANCE A PHILADELPHIE
MOURUT A SPRINSBOURG (VIRGINIE)EN 1822 OU IL EST ENTERRE
Sources:

  • décès: ARTICLE DE PRESSE BIBLIOTHEQUE MUNICIPALE DE ROUEN
  • mariage: Registres paroissiaux RP 263

Source Internet : www.quesnels.com/history.htm
Nicolas-Louis and Marie-Elisabeth had three sons and two daughters. The youngest son was François-Prosper Quesnel (see below) and the elder of the two daughters, Marguerite, married an Englishman, John Holker, in 1769 in Rouen. John Holker had been born in Manchester in 1745, and his family, for four generations beginning in 1620, had lived (where else?) in Eccles. His father, also named John, had been born at Stratford and settled in Manchester in 1741, intending to set up a cotton mill. In 1745, however, he joined the Scottish uprising of Bonnie Prince Charlie, was wounded, taken prisoner and sent to the Tower of London to be hanged, but managed to escape to France. Unable to return to England, he started a cotton mill near Rouen. With the help of experts from England, he promoted the cotton industry on a huge scale thoughout France and was named General Inspector for Manufactured Goods, in which charge he was succeeded by his son. He became a French national in 1766. His son John, married to Marguerite Quesnel, continued his father's work and joined the nobility in 1774. Leaving his wife and son behind, he went to the United States in 1777, where he served as French consul in Philadelphia for several years. He started a second family in America, where he died in 1822.